Final feedback from an average poe player before leaving the game

I am an average player. In settlers I was able to beat almost everything (except for T17 content). In Poe2 I have a 91 lvl Smith of Kitava, I can easily run T15/T16 maps and kill lower level pinnacle bosses. I have never seen expedition and ritual bosses. Never got the invitations.

I am bored.

Running endgame maps is boring. It gets repetitive very fast and there is no way to augment your maps to do your favorite content. GGG nailed the "secret formula" with poe1 and decided to scrap it and do something worse.

Running Trial of Sekhema is tedious. It's long and completely detached from what makes ARPGs fun. Trial of Chaos is meh.

Lowering the number of towers and making them more effective is better, but it's just polishing a turd. The towers are not a good system.

To be positive, the recent changes to loot and overall balance pushed the endgame to something that can be fun for some time, but I feel like they reached a local maximum and they won't be able to make it more fun without drastic changes.

Currently I am happy with how far I've gotten. I feel fulfilled and I am not angry or regretful for playing, but I find poe 2 NOT replayable and that's bad.

I hope next season will bring meaningful changes that will entice me to try it again, but until then I hope 3.26 will be good.

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Cerikus#6736 が発言:

Lowering the number of towers and making them more effective is better, but it's just polishing a turd. The towers are not a good system.

That's crude but it's very true.

They are aware that a lot of people, if not most, don't like the tower system and they are trying to save it as much as they can to alleviate it.

Having to make a new system would be a lot of work since right now the world map is constructed around those dynamically. The work they would need to put in to change that system, could be very major to the point they might need to remove the early access to people for a while.

poe1: 5% of playtime juicing maps, 95% of playtime running the juiced maps i want to run
poe2: 30% of time preparing juiced waystones and try to overlap some towers, 50% of time running layouts i dont like, 20% of time running the juiced maps i want to run

this single difference, while there are many others i dont like, is enough for me to not play the game anymore. this endgame sucks, period.

TLDR: BETA game is in beta, it's unfinished therefore I must quit.


P.S. If you go into games in BETA testing and expect a full game, perhaps you should... not play games in beta.

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Valsacar#0268 が発言:

TLDR: BETA game is in beta, it's unfinished therefore I must quit.


P.S. If you go into games in BETA testing and expect a full game, perhaps you should... not play games in beta.

enough parrotting

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Valsacar#0268 が発言:

TLDR: BETA game is in beta, it's unfinished therefore I must quit.


P.S. If you go into games in BETA testing and expect a full game, perhaps you should... not play games in beta.

[Removed by Support] He is giving feedback in his own way, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is not valid.

This being beta is the perfect time to be leaving feed back on systems some players dislike.

I personally don't mind towers too much. I like being able to juice a bunch of maps by adding the precursor tablets. I also don't mind that they open up the fog of war.

However, I think that all the tiles except the unique maps should be blank. Then you would do like PoE 1 style maps and be able to choose what ever map you want to make it in order to move forward. Have certain maps fall into different tiers, and as you run the different citadels, you'd drops something similar to the void stones to boost the map tiers. I'm not to sure what they could do to unlock something like favourite maps, but mixing a bit of what makes PoE 1 mapping awesome into PoE 2 would, in my opinion make endgame mapping so much better. I dislike so many of the maps and if I had the choice would rather never run them if I could.

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Sylenathus#3271 が発言:

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Valsacar#0268 が発言:

TLDR: BETA game is in beta, it's unfinished therefore I must quit.


P.S. If you go into games in BETA testing and expect a full game, perhaps you should... not play games in beta.

[Removed by Support] He is giving feedback in his own way, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is not valid.

This being beta is the perfect time to be leaving feed back on systems some players dislike.

I personally don't mind towers too much. I like being able to juice a bunch of maps by adding the precursor tablets. I also don't mind that they open up the fog of war.

However, I think that all the tiles except the unique maps should be blank. Then you would do like PoE 1 style maps and be able to choose what ever map you want to make it in order to move forward. Have certain maps fall into different tiers, and as you run the different citadels, you'd drops something similar to the void stones to boost the map tiers. I'm not to sure what they could do to unlock something like favourite maps, but mixing a bit of what makes PoE 1 mapping awesome into PoE 2 would, in my opinion make endgame mapping so much better. I dislike so many of the maps and if I had the choice would rather never run them if I could.

There's giving feedback, and then there's just complaining.

Let's see what they wrote.

1. Endgame is boring and repetitive because there isn't enough content yet... ie, the game is unfinished (we know, that's why it's in beta).

2. Sekhema is tedious and "detached" from what makes ARPGs fun. Completely subjective and offers zero actionable feedback. That's just complaining.

3. Trial of Chaos is meh. See point 2.

4. Towers suck. See points 1 and 2.


Compare that to your own response to me, where you gave your opinion in a way that is actionable feedback.

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Pl4t1numX#4325 が発言:

poe1: 5% of playtime juicing maps, 95% of playtime running the juiced maps i want to run
poe2: 30% of time preparing juiced waystones and try to overlap some towers, 50% of time running layouts i dont like, 20% of time running the juiced maps i want to run

this single difference, while there are many others i dont like, is enough for me to not play the game anymore. this endgame sucks, period.

+1 - This sums up perfectly my opinion of the current state of PoE2

To @Valsacar#0268 : This is valid feedback, I'm not complaining because the endgame is incomplete. This mapping system is just awful in my opinion, I'm forced to spend 75%/90% of my playtime doing something other than having fun.