"
Bourgee が発言:
"
Spazmeister が発言:
Are you ready with an update for the PoB or are you still waiting for the gems to be revealed?
POB is updated. New Gem will not be good in any szenario so i don't need to wait until lvl 20 gems.
I'm confused, how is it not worth it? At level 20, they only decrease totem damage by 20%, but summon 2 extra totems, while also allowing you to summon 2 totems at once instead of 1. Is it really not worth a gem slot for the other things you'd have to trade out?
|
投稿者Gilderoy#2545日時 2018/12/05 19:39:39
|
Hi there. Preparing for Betrayal, and looking at your build.
Just a tought: for ascendency, why not use Arcane Blessing? This frees up the manual use of Conductivity to proc Arcane Surge.
|
投稿者SwitchBL8#1097日時 2018/12/05 20:06:33
|
"
Bourgee が発言:
we will still have 4 totems so the same amount as in 3.4.
can someone please explain this to me. You can summon one totem at a time, add a second from Ancestral Bond, and a third from Pursuit of Faith. Where is the 4th totem coming from?
How does this compare to Arc Trapper or Arc Miner?
IGN: DabrixRN 最後に Thomasmgp#1035 が 2018/12/05 20:47:33 に編集
|
投稿者Thomasmgp#1035日時 2018/12/05 20:39:31
|
"
Gilderoy が発言:
"
Bourgee が発言:
"
Spazmeister が発言:
Are you ready with an update for the PoB or are you still waiting for the gems to be revealed?
POB is updated. New Gem will not be good in any szenario so i don't need to wait until lvl 20 gems.
I'm confused, how is it not worth it? At level 20, they only decrease totem damage by 20%, but summon 2 extra totems, while also allowing you to summon 2 totems at once instead of 1. Is it really not worth a gem slot for the other things you'd have to trade out?
Quick Math: 4 Totems 400% dmg - 1 support gem = 320% dmg - 4 * 20 from gem= 240% dmg * 1,5 (cause 6 totems) = 360% dmg. so 6 totems with new supp would be 10% less dmg per totem.
|
投稿者Bourgee#1142日時 2018/12/05 20:48:30
|
"
Thomasmgp が発言:
"
Bourgee が発言:
we will still have 4 totems so the same amount as in 3.4.
can someone please explain this to me. You can summon one totem at a time, add a second from Ancestral Bond, and a third from Pursuit of Faith. Where is the 4th totem coming from?
How does this compare to Arc Trapper or Arc Miner?
we get a shield with +1 totems from new veiled mods.
|
投稿者Bourgee#1142日時 2018/12/05 20:49:02
|
you can also get an extra totem from soul mantle
|
投稿者Lyutsifer665#1671日時 2018/12/05 20:53:21保護観察中
|
"
Exxxiled665 が発言:
you can also get an extra totem from soul mantle
i don't recommend using soul mantle in any chase. it has to many downsides
|
投稿者Bourgee#1142日時 2018/12/05 20:54:07
|
"
Bourgee が発言:
Quick Math: 4 Totems 400% dmg - 1 support gem = 320% dmg - 4 * 20 from gem= 240% dmg * 1,5 (cause 6 totems) = 360% dmg. so 6 totems with new supp would be 10% less dmg per totem.
Could you give a more in-depth explanation to where you get that 1 support removal is 80% reduction in overall damage? Also you seem to be missing the change to the ascendancy node Ritual of Awakening that gives +3% damage per totem.
Based on the PoB you linked, removing the Increased Critical Strikes support gem is the lowest impact on DPS. PoB shows about 692k DPS with Increased Critical, 625k without which is a change of about 10%.
|
投稿者insane103#5880日時 2018/12/05 21:27:21
|
"
insane103 が発言:
"
Bourgee が発言:
Quick Math: 4 Totems 400% dmg - 1 support gem = 320% dmg - 4 * 20 from gem= 240% dmg * 1,5 (cause 6 totems) = 360% dmg. so 6 totems with new supp would be 10% less dmg per totem.
Could you give a more in-depth explanation to where you get that 1 support removal is 80% reduction in overall damage? Also you seem to be missing the change to the ascendancy node Ritual of Awakening that gives +3% damage per totem.
Based on the PoB you linked, removing the Increased Critical Strikes support gem is the lowest impact on DPS. PoB shows about 692k DPS with Increased Critical, 625k without which is a change of about 10%.
4 Totems each deals 100% dmg. so you get 400%. if you lose 1 supp gem you lose about 20%. so you go from 4x100% to 4x80%. that's 320%. with ritual of awakening you will get 6% extra you are right. but it's still less dmg than. cause 6% < 40% :D and inc. crit strikes is 19% dmg. even if you do the math with 19% you will have 4x81 = 324% - 4*20 from the new gem = 244% * 1.5 = 366% + 2x 3% = 372% instead of 400%.
|
投稿者Bourgee#1142日時 2018/12/05 21:34:48
|
"
Bourgee が発言:
"
insane103 が発言:
"
Bourgee が発言:
Quick Math: 4 Totems 400% dmg - 1 support gem = 320% dmg - 4 * 20 from gem= 240% dmg * 1,5 (cause 6 totems) = 360% dmg. so 6 totems with new supp would be 10% less dmg per totem.
Could you give a more in-depth explanation to where you get that 1 support removal is 80% reduction in overall damage? Also you seem to be missing the change to the ascendancy node Ritual of Awakening that gives +3% damage per totem.
Based on the PoB you linked, removing the Increased Critical Strikes support gem is the lowest impact on DPS. PoB shows about 692k DPS with Increased Critical, 625k without which is a change of about 10%.
4 Totems each deals 100% dmg. so you get 400%. if you lose 1 supp gem you lose about 20%. so you go from 4x100% to 4x80%. that's 320%. with ritual of awakening you will get 6% extra you are right. but it's still less dmg than. cause 6% < 40% :D and inc. crit strikes is 19% dmg. even if you do the math with 19% you will have 4x81 = 324% - 4*20 from the new gem = 244% * 1.5 = 366% + 2x 3% = 372% instead of 400%.
With 3 Totems it's 300%. 3*81 = 243 - 3*20 = 183 / 3 * 5 = 305 + 6% from ascendency = 311% so at 3 Totems it would be worth using it.
|
投稿者Bourgee#1142日時 2018/12/05 21:39:38
|