Speak Up for PoE2: Join the Constructive Feedback Movement!

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ymudrogado#2695 が発言:
Well Guys, we can at least try, i know GGG is not rearing us as much as we want, but maybe we can change this, lets just try and see what will happens, what do you guys think?


this forum has been around for more than a decade. i dont know if the forum has much effect towards positive changes. someone will need to show evidence of them acknowledging that they thoroughly read the forum for me to believe change is possible.

other than that, i am just here to pointlessly vent as its not very fun playing.
`Spent 2 mirrors on my build, but I'm only Level 98.` LOL
`From just quick sweep of your characters, toxic rain, golems .. sure, non meta... sure.` LOL
`What are divs?`
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NoyAvargel#6918 が発言:
that aside from the graphic and visual there is not a single system/fundamental decision/direction or anything at all about this game that is good. . thats why i dont think poe 2 can be fixed it has to be remade. . because if you want to make poe 2 good you have to keep the graphic and delete and remake the rest or upgrade poe 1 visual but almost everyting in poe 2 is bad


If what u saying is true, we can't only hope for a remade, we need to fight for it, and not just wait for it, if you are here, you love this game, if we can hit them, they will see them forced to do big changes, just post what u think if could be redone for the game core mate, lets make this happens together.
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ymudrogado#2695 が発言:
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NoyAvargel#6918 が発言:
that aside from the graphic and visual there is not a single system/fundamental decision/direction or anything at all about this game that is good. . thats why i dont think poe 2 can be fixed it has to be remade. . because if you want to make poe 2 good you have to keep the graphic and delete and remake the rest or upgrade poe 1 visual but almost everyting in poe 2 is bad


If what u saying is true, we can't only hope for a remade, we need to fight for it, and not just wait for it, if you are here, you love this game, if we can hit them, they will see them forced to do big changes, just post what u think if could be redone for the game core mate, lets make this happens together.


they should just drop poe2 and make poe1 look better. there's nothing in the present endgame other than the boss mechanics and graphics that should be kept.

`Spent 2 mirrors on my build, but I'm only Level 98.` LOL
`From just quick sweep of your characters, toxic rain, golems .. sure, non meta... sure.` LOL
`What are divs?`
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ymudrogado#2695 が発言:
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NoyAvargel#6918 が発言:
that aside from the graphic and visual there is not a single system/fundamental decision/direction or anything at all about this game that is good. . thats why i dont think poe 2 can be fixed it has to be remade. . because if you want to make poe 2 good you have to keep the graphic and delete and remake the rest or upgrade poe 1 visual but almost everyting in poe 2 is bad


If what u saying is true, we can't only hope for a remade, we need to fight for it, and not just wait for it, if you are here, you love this game, if we can hit them, they will see them forced to do big changes, just post what u think if could be redone for the game core mate, lets make this happens together.



im playing poe 1 since 2014 you can see my support to GGG in form of support packs.. obviously i love this game. . (poe 1)

but when it comes to poe 2? i dont like the game infact i think its 1 of the worst games ive ever tried.. and if it wont shift entirely i have 0 interest in ever trying to play poe 2 again becuse its unfun game .


again. . i dont think they need feedback .. becuase if the game was overall good and there were some small stuff we didnt like we could give feedback how tomake them good.. but poe 2 as a whole is a big bag of bad stuff mixed together with very good graphic .. the only thing to do is keep the graphic make visual update to poe 1 and throw poe 2 away
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ymudrogado#2695 が発言:
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NoyAvargel#6918 が発言:
that aside from the graphic and visual there is not a single system/fundamental decision/direction or anything at all about this game that is good. . thats why i dont think poe 2 can be fixed it has to be remade. . because if you want to make poe 2 good you have to keep the graphic and delete and remake the rest or upgrade poe 1 visual but almost everyting in poe 2 is bad


If what u saying is true, we can't only hope for a remade, we need to fight for it, and not just wait for it, if you are here, you love this game, if we can hit them, they will see them forced to do big changes, just post what u think if could be redone for the game core mate, lets make this happens together.


they should just drop poe2 and make poe1 look better. there's nothing in the present endgame other than the boss mechanics and graphics that should be kept.




100% they just need to make visual update to poe 1 because honestly aside from visual i can not even think about 1 thing in poe 2 that i can say its good..

campain? trash slow 20-30 hours suffering

asscending? both classes and how you asscend nty

endgame. . ? tree garbage leage tree garbage towers garbage maps garbage loot garbage gameplay garbage map system garbage.. . what is there to keep? nothing

skills? clunky , support skills? 99% useless very clunky

all this game does is waste your time in the most awful boring way possible.
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NoyAvargel#6918 が発言:
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ymudrogado#2695 が発言:
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NoyAvargel#6918 が発言:
that aside from the graphic and visual there is not a single system/fundamental decision/direction or anything at all about this game that is good. . thats why i dont think poe 2 can be fixed it has to be remade. . because if you want to make poe 2 good you have to keep the graphic and delete and remake the rest or upgrade poe 1 visual but almost everyting in poe 2 is bad


If what u saying is true, we can't only hope for a remade, we need to fight for it, and not just wait for it, if you are here, you love this game, if we can hit them, they will see them forced to do big changes, just post what u think if could be redone for the game core mate, lets make this happens together.



im playing poe 1 since 2014 you can see my support to GGG in form of support packs.. obviously i love this game. . (poe 1)

but when it comes to poe 2? i dont like the game infact i think its 1 of the worst games ive ever tried.. and if it wont shift entirely i have 0 interest in ever trying to play poe 2 again becuse its unfun game .


again. . i dont think they need feedback .. becuase if the game was overall good and there were some small stuff we didnt like we could give feedback how tomake them good.. but poe 2 as a whole is a big bag of bad stuff mixed together with very good graphic .. the only thing to do is keep the graphic make visual update to poe 1 and throw poe 2 away


I agree with u, there so many things to change that maybe they need to redo the game, but maybe is not practical, and will be easier to change many things in the core game, im not a coder, but i think it will be simpler.
While I'm sure this thread is well intended, I'm done giving feedback. I'm done repeating myself. Everyone knows what the problems are. Everyone knows what the solutions are. GGG has a blueprint for success and is choosing to ignore it.

There is literally nothing else to say, except that I'm almost to the point of not even coming here to check the forum posts. Every day the forums are nothing but the same repeated, justified, complaints that just took some longer to realize and post about than others.
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NoyAvargel#6918 が発言:
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ymudrogado#2695 が発言:
Well Guys, we can at least try, i know GGG is not rearing us as much as we want, but maybe we can change this, lets just try and see what will happens, what do you guys think?



ok.. ill play along but then i really want to ask you to name the stuff that are good in poe 2

because i can tell you that aside from visual every single thing is better in poe 1 than poe 2 direct comparison so then what is the point of poe 2?


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Sure I will play along since you're clearly so single minded toward PoE1.

Bossing - Literally everything about it is better. Ideally they will figure out spec balance so people are still not 1 shotting/facetanking bosses, but that will take time.

Ability to feel like you can use your currency in the campaign and beyond. 95% of currency is useless in PoE1 because of the Scouring/Chaos orb design. It feels great to be able to use Regals/Exalts throughout the game.

Progression from campaign to red maps is much more steady and achievable.

No Bloat, there are FAR too many "core" mechanics in PoE1.

Usable Weapon Swap Tree's/Second set for auras/movespeed.

Endgame has a long ways to go yet I agree, but I prefer the big maps and not being forced to run a specific map because it drops a good card or has an "efficient" layout. I think the favored maps system was a terrible choice in PoE1. There needs to be some friction in the game rather than just being at 100% efficiency at all times. Lots of people are complaining about the setup time to juice maps in poe2, but that same setup time is in PoE1 except instead of PLAYING the game you're on trade websites or discords buying scarabs and corrupted maps, etc.

Skill System - Much more friendly to the general player, support combinations are going to be crazy as they continue to add classes. There are 19 classes yet to come...

WASD - Honestly hard to get used to PoE1 again after playing PoE2.

Pausing - Easily the best feature in PoE2.

Quant/Rarity - The reduction of scaling for Rarity/Quant is great. PoE1 essentially caps it at 100% and it is something to work towards in gear progression.

Harder maps = Less portals is a W.

Passive tree attribute choices are awesome. I still think they need to reduce some attribute requirements on gems/gear so it is more viable to do interesting weapon swap builds.


I am sure I have more, but in general there are A LOT of great things in PoE2 that PoE1 does not have.




ok ill bite.. .but then tell me what you would change for the game to be fun?

im asking because i know the answers and there is going to be a long ass list of answers atleast 20 lines and then even after all of it changed you probably just end at point where you dislike the game less but its still not very enjoyable.. because the fundamental didnt change.. . i dont think that theres any change to powers that makes them good or better than stuff like sixences or scarabs in poe 1.

and then loot. . the entire loot system and how it works need to be changed and rebuilt becuase the way loot is working is just bad its not just too little or too much loot but how the loot works. and rarity and how it forces you to throw away 95% of all maps you find because if no rarity and quant you dont want to run maps..

then maps how you change maps? the entire system need to be different from rerolling the maps to jucing the map to chosing the map to the maps design to the modes everything has to be changed..
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NoyAvargel#6918 が発言:
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ymudrogado#2695 が発言:
Well Guys, we can at least try, i know GGG is not rearing us as much as we want, but maybe we can change this, lets just try and see what will happens, what do you guys think?



ok.. ill play along but then i really want to ask you to name the stuff that are good in poe 2

because i can tell you that aside from visual every single thing is better in poe 1 than poe 2 direct comparison so then what is the point of poe 2?


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Sure I will play along since you're clearly so single minded toward PoE1.

Bossing - Literally everything about it is better. Ideally they will figure out spec balance so people are still not 1 shotting/facetanking bosses, but that will take time.

Ability to feel like you can use your currency in the campaign and beyond. 95% of currency is useless in PoE1 because of the Scouring/Chaos orb design. It feels great to be able to use Regals/Exalts throughout the game.

Progression from campaign to red maps is much more steady and achievable.

No Bloat, there are FAR too many "core" mechanics in PoE1.

Usable Weapon Swap Tree's/Second set for auras/movespeed.

Endgame has a long ways to go yet I agree, but I prefer the big maps and not being forced to run a specific map because it drops a good card or has an "efficient" layout. I think the favored maps system was a terrible choice in PoE1. There needs to be some friction in the game rather than just being at 100% efficiency at all times. Lots of people are complaining about the setup time to juice maps in poe2, but that same setup time is in PoE1 except instead of PLAYING the game you're on trade websites or discords buying scarabs and corrupted maps, etc.

Skill System - Much more friendly to the general player, support combinations are going to be crazy as they continue to add classes. There are 19 classes yet to come...

WASD - Honestly hard to get used to PoE1 again after playing PoE2.

Pausing - Easily the best feature in PoE2.

Quant/Rarity - The reduction of scaling for Rarity/Quant is great. PoE1 essentially caps it at 100% and it is something to work towards in gear progression.

Harder maps = Less portals is a W.

Passive tree attribute choices are awesome. I still think they need to reduce some attribute requirements on gems/gear so it is more viable to do interesting weapon swap builds.


I am sure I have more, but in general there are A LOT of great things in PoE2 that PoE1 does not have.




i think most of what you say is false tho. .. and there are ways now to chose whatever card you want to drop in any map you want in poe 1.. so again either you are saying false stuff or you quit a while ago and not up to date with poe 1 right now. . about alot of others there are alot which i agree are personal perferance so i should just respect your personal choice

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