"Your Build is Bad" Proves POE2 Missed the Mark. POE1 is Much Easier to Understand

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bewilder2#0356 が発言:

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Kraythax#2592 が発言:

Trade isnt the problem in this game. There is trade in POE1 and it doesnt prevent an impediment. Sure someone who trades will move faster than I will playing SSF. I dont care. If you care that someone gets to maps faster than you then I would suggest you need to play a compeditive game. This is not. Nor is POE1.

Disagree that PoE is not competitive game. It is a competitive game, but the competitiveness is in economic environment.

I agree that trade is not the problem, BUT, designing and tailoring the game around trade is the problem especially when PoE 2 trying to create a new wheel, trying to be its own game, but still using its predecessor as foundation.

In discussing about Fang of Frost viability, I have 2 views about it ;

1) I agree with your take about why shouldn't we allowed to take a skill like that into maps, making it "endgame" viable, picking up pieces of puzzles and constructing a build in which the process itself can be considered a fun factor. After all, Path of Exile 1 allowing that kind of process and its quite rewarding.

2) I also agree with GGG / Jonathan idea of making certain skills are meant to be just utility, and simply can't scale it terms of becoming its own archetype.

But the problem is, GGG enforces the idea of not allowing certain skills to be scaled as straightforward and become its own archetype but still using PoE 1 game foundation of randomization in itemization and trade dependency in making PoE 2.

Just like what you said in your other posts about trying to make the skill to actually do something meaningful and be its own archetype, require investment in gears that seems to be not making sense. GGG refuse to implement a proper crafting system that will greatly help player's progression in playing their own archetype because they want everything to be harder / slower, they want "ground loot matters" not "loot matters" , they don't want players to easily get upgrades even incrementally just by simply playing the game, they still want the game to be balanced and tailored around trade.

They don't want us to have a system in which we actually able to plan and working slowly but surely to get that gear with specific modifiers that we need for our specific build. They want us to be dependent on trading, to depend on others in the spirit that they call "this item might be not useful for me but could be useful for other".

GGG doesn't want PoE 2 players to be able to get martial weapon with damage modifiers easily like in PoE 1 with vendor recipe, or movement speed boots, or certain ring bases for elemental resistances. Every league and patch that seems to be remove friction / scarcity in PoE 1 deemed as "failure".

It still just designed like PoE 1, and all of these failure of design can be traced back and stemmed from the game still being designed and tailored around trade.

Just like what you said about "Why does it bother people that some could take out the maps?"

I'd say, Why they can't implement somewhat deterministic method of gear progression ? PoE 1 have it, why can't PoE 2 have it ? The game want to be different than PoE 1 ? Then why, for the love of god, the game still have alot of systems that just simply the same like PoE 1 ?