I finally tried minions.. how on earth is this balanced??

So started a new SSFHC character and looked on POE Ninja what some people were playing and I thought ok I will try to build a Frost Mage character, just wanted something with cold to freeze explode everything.

Compared this to Ben-s SSFHC GALVANIC SHARDS+Shockburst Crossbower. League start, zero gear.

The difference is so huge that it got me depressed mid A2. Why are skills so OVERLY unbalanced, specially in the early game..
People should be able to blast to maps with any skill they choose, have a great time doing so and THEN in the endgame ramp the difficulty up.

Minions feel so bad, they dont clear anything well, it takes forever to kill white mobs, they dont have... RARITY MODIFIERS SO YOU DONT GET LOOT IF YOU PLAY MINIONS and after all that "OUT OF MANA" and press 10 million buttons. Buff your minions, curse the boss, debuff the boss, minion target the boss, oh shit first buffs already gone, rebuff minions, now youse special ability of the minion OH WAIT THE DEBUFFS ARE GONE.. REDO ALL, but oh wait I also have Skeletal Sniper, use sniper special ability, use Skeletal Reaver special ability, use Frost Mage speci... wait all the minions are dead 100x over by 2 or 3 hits from a rare monster or 1xboss tap.

Compare to Crossbow build = Do good damage with regular Galvanic Shards, boss gets SHOCK, Load Shockburst rounds, fire, boss dead in 3 seconds.

Mathils actual cat
最後に HDTanel#2691 が 2025/05/30 22:42:56 に編集
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welcome to being a minion player.

now go take those level 15-17 minions into maps at lvl 69 and grind 3x slower than everyone else, for less loot, and watch as bosses one shot your minions, only for them to be respawned into another one shot.

keep grinding that currency. cuz your going to need 20+ divs for anything you need to buy on trade to make them stronger due to the insane weights on +minion level gear and the community knowing its the only stat to imrpove your dps.

oh and dont do storm mages, the only 'good' minion build right now unless you had another character to farm 500+ divs for your +3 skele prism of belief jewel since the community already knows, its the only 'good' minion build.

whats that? you play ssf? you might as well delete the character. the chances of you getting a drop, or gamble, or slam with +4 minions. or +2 or 3. for their respective item slot are so low it isnt even worth the time to farm for them.... and some of them are literally, unfarmable... gl getting the correct +skill on sunsplinter to drop.. and even more luck corrupting it! that should be a blast right!!!!

and dont forget spirit! if your +3 minion amulet doesnt have spirit, its not good. same with your chest. and your +4 sceptre needs spirit, or its bad ... oh and dont forget to corrupt it for +1minion or all spells... and dont forget to do the same for your +2 minion helmet... thats fun right!?

and even more good luck getting res capped while you do it. and hopefully you get some divines, to reroll endless ventors x2 for spirit. oh ya... and gl finding ventors....... and corrupting both of them for more spirit!

have fun farming sapphires or rerolling them for +4 minion cast/attack speed and +14-15 minion dmg... while finding probably +es. or pressence. or any other desireable stat.. its a blast! dont forget to corrupt those too!

oh and good luck being locked into 3/4 of your passive tree being the same as every other minion player regardless of which type they use... some real build diversity there right?!!??

BUT HEY... you can always reroll LS and clear 3 screens with one button with 150% rarity to finance your minion char i guess.... right?

oh wwwwait. your ssf. refer back to deleting the character.

最後に Innuendos#5095 が 2025/06/02 7:55:54 に編集
one of many reasons I quit before 2.0 and just watching the ship sinking at this point.
I'm sure they're well aware that certain classes/builds are underperforming. They have enough collected data on their end to where you can be pretty confident that things like that don't just slip through the cracks.

And I'm also sure that balance is one of their top priorities. We know things are going to change with each update, so I predict that minions will be strong again in the near future.
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Innuendos#5095 が発言:
welcome to being a minion player.

now go take those level 15-17 minions into maps at lvl 69 and grind 3x slower than everyone else, for less loot, and watch as bosses one shot your minions, only for them to be respawned into another one shot.

keep grinding that currency. cuz your going to need 20+ divs for anything you need to buy on trade to make them stronger due to the insane weights on +minion level gear and the community knowing its the only stat to imrpove your dps.

oh and dont do storm mages, the only 'good' minion build right now unless you had another character to farm 300+ divs for your +3 skele prism of belief jewel since the community already knows, its the only 'good' minion build.

whats that? you play ssf? you might as well delete the character. the chances of you getting a drop, or gamble, or slam with +4 minions. or +2 or 3. for their respective item slot are so low it isnt even worth the time to farm for them.... and some of them are literally, unfarmable... gl getting the correct +skill on sunsplinter to drop.. and even more luck corrupting it! that should be a blast right!!!!

and dont forget spirit! if your +3 minion amulet doesnt have spirit, its not good. same with your chest. and your +4 sceptre needs spirit, or its bad ... oh and dont forget to corrupt it for +1minion or all spells... and dont forget to do the same for your +2 minion helmet... thats fun right!?

and even more good luck getting res capped while you do it. and hopefully you get some divines, to reroll endless ventors x2 for spirit. oh ya... and gl finding ventors....... and corrupting both of them for more spirit!

have fun farming sapphires or rerolling them for +4 minion cast/attack speed and +14-15 minion dmg... while finding probably +es. or pressence. or any other desireable stat.. its a blast! dont forget to corrupt those too!

oh and good luck being locked into 3/4 of your passive tree being the same as every other minion player regardless of which type they use... some real build diversity there right?!!??

BUT HEY... you can always reroll LS and clear 3 screens with one button with 150% rarity to finance your minion char i guess.... right?

oh wwwwait. your ssf. refer back to deleting the character.



well... there is nothing to add.

:((
SSF player✔️
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?
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Innuendos#5095 が発言:
welcome to being a minion player.

now go take those level 15-17 minions into maps at lvl 69 and grind 3x slower than everyone else, for less loot, and watch as bosses one shot your minions, only for them to be respawned into another one shot.

keep grinding that currency. cuz your going to need 20+ divs for anything you need to buy on trade to make them stronger due to the insane weights on +minion level gear and the community knowing its the only stat to imrpove your dps.

oh and dont do storm mages, the only 'good' minion build right now unless you had another character to farm 300+ divs for your +3 skele prism of belief jewel since the community already knows, its the only 'good' minion build.

whats that? you play ssf? you might as well delete the character. the chances of you getting a drop, or gamble, or slam with +4 minions. or +2 or 3. for their respective item slot are so low it isnt even worth the time to farm for them.... and some of them are literally, unfarmable... gl getting the correct +skill on sunsplinter to drop.. and even more luck corrupting it! that should be a blast right!!!!

and dont forget spirit! if your +3 minion amulet doesnt have spirit, its not good. same with your chest. and your +4 sceptre needs spirit, or its bad ... oh and dont forget to corrupt it for +1minion or all spells... and dont forget to do the same for your +2 minion helmet... thats fun right!?

and even more good luck getting res capped while you do it. and hopefully you get some divines, to reroll endless ventors x2 for spirit. oh ya... and gl finding ventors....... and corrupting both of them for more spirit!

have fun farming sapphires or rerolling them for +4 minion cast/attack speed and +14-15 minion dmg... while finding probably +es. or pressence. or any other desireable stat.. its a blast! dont forget to corrupt those too!

oh and good luck being locked into 3/4 of your passive tree being the same as every other minion player regardless of which type they use... some real build diversity there right?!!??

BUT HEY... you can always reroll LS and clear 3 screens with one button with 150% rarity to finance your minion char i guess.... right?

oh wwwwait. your ssf. refer back to deleting the character.




umm yeh

my infernalist minion build just hit level 98 and yep your right....

Thank you for taking the time to write on our behalf
P.S

I am a Dog and i will just drop my load and leave on to the next post
Guys slow down....


Crossbow players are the the most wronged players in the game from the beginning of early access, when the other classes cleared whole screen with actually 1/2 of click.

Seriously now the problem with minions lies to the number of minions. Devs shouldn't allow so many minions by one character but instead 5max. These Minions should have 5x more damage and defences and also character that control minions should be buffed 2x.

Imagine to make party with 2 characters that control 12 minions each. The gameplay would be awful. I see all time in creation of a party, people write: Minions not allowed. I understand these people couse with ton of minions in map you can't actually do anything right, you cant move, you cant see, you cant recognize objects, it's a hell....
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teobibu#1278 が発言:
I understand these people couse with ton of minions in map you can't actually do anything right, you cant move, you cant see, you cant recognize objects, it's a hell....


Now imagine all those minions in a narrow space ritual, filled with volatile plants and you get a clutterfest.

Minion class is very underwhelming and like someone posted, it's quite hard to have your char progress because the gear for it is quite rare. Any helm that dosen't have +2 to minion is charsi food. I've been rolling amulets with Alva for hundreds of hours in SSF and I haven't found a single +3 minion skill amulet, not even a trash one.




Leaving them unplayable the entire season so far was why I quit. I tried to push through and manage the specter bug. It was too much, then update after update me being an idiot actually thought they were working on this game actively figured it would be stamped out pretty fast. Come to find out they can only work on 1 game at a time and they chose the 10 year old one to prioritize while the new one was an unfunctional disaster. Knowing that major bugs like this are just allowed to exist while the shovel out MTX after MTX is the worst feeling as hopeful customer.
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HDTanel#2691 が発言:
So started a new SSFHC character and looked on POE Ninja what some people were playing and I thought ok I will try to build a Frost Mage character, just wanted something with cold to freeze explode everything.


Yeah, I would advise against playing HC with minions, the game is way too unbalanced right now. I used to play HC but switched to SSF standard.

That class got completely wrecked and is in a very bad state right now.
最後に Oinkaments#6390 が 2025/05/31 8:23:38 に編集

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