Going in the right direction, but exp. Loss is pain point

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SpankyKong#9805 が発言:

Crafting is so heavily RNG, and good/relevant end game loot drops are so rare that - often times, the only thing players have to show from beating maps is progress on their bar. But when you can lose progress from ten/twenty/thirty maps in one foul, unreactable, poorly telegraphed one-hit-kill... it's demoralizing/demotivating & ceases to be fun for most people.

Why do I say most? Well, given that only 4 players have reached level 100 this whole season - if it were true that most people preferred this design philosophy, I would expect to see at least 51% of peak seasonal players stick around trying to reach level 100. However, the real number is far below that.

Or most of the playerbase don't care about reaching max lvl. It has so little effect on total character power. If you're losing 30% xp in a map (at 96 i get 1-2% per map) then you probably aren't ready for harder content.

This is why I think the compromise should at least be move the XP loss to start @ 90.

Most people can start to farm things fairly well in 80s and it still takes a good effort to get to 90 minus the hell of XP loss. If the cheeseball death tactics didnt exist in this game I'd be totally fine with XP loss but the way deaths are handed out in a digital way, your dead (no healing flask necessary) XP loss has no business here. And let's not forget how the Omen of Resurgence does not work whatsoever. I thought GGG actually was cool when I saw these. Then realized THIS IS GARBAGE, dont even work, like ever.

I'm not even suggesting it be removed completely. Im just saying some of my deaths have been janky as hell! I did hit lvl 94 last night. Make 6% exp. Lose 3, buy Omen. This happens a multitude of times.

Mostly due to unseen ground effects. Ive previously noted a couple. Heres 2 more, trash mobs throw out 5 bombs in literally not where you were standing, but where you are running toward. I stop to do inventory management. And dead. Keep in mind I have notseen these enemies yet, they are off screen.

Fungus enemies in sulphuric minds throw out some junk on the ground. There is so much literal shit and enemies on the ground, our poor human senses just cant sort all the trash going on. Is there a break, no, there is a chain explosion that most certainly nails your coffin shut.

W/e lose 3% exp. Buy another omen. Skip boss bc f his one shot mechanic that I dont even want to guess will probably happen.

Point being, if I skip bosses, in a game thats supposed to be about bosses. Well, that template just isnt making much sense.

Make the death feel fair and earned, only the exp penalty can be justified. Instead of - Oh, you picked a melee class - F YOU!

Any other argument is PURE BS.

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BPJ2021#8950 が発言:

Point being, if I skip bosses, in a game thats supposed to be about bosses. Well, that template just isnt making much sense.

+1

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Direfell#7544 が発言:

Or most of the playerbase doesn't care about reaching max lvl.

Said with so much confidence yet so little evidence. I can point to hundreds of threads of people quitting POE 2 over this. I will be generous and give you wide threshold - can you point me to *any* game ever, where hundreds have quit and complained because it was too easy to reach max level?

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Direfell#7544 が発言:

It has so little effect on total character power.If you're losing 30% xp in a map (at 96 i get 1-2% per map) then you probably aren't ready for harder content.

The eternal contradictions. "It has little effect" and also "it's absolutely essential to gate keep from other players."

"You probably aren't ready for harder content" while ignoring the dozens or hundreds of times that level of content has already been beaten.

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SpankyKong#9805 が発言:

Said with so much confidence yet so little evidence. I can point to hundreds of threads of people quitting POE 2 over this. I will be generous and give you wide threshold - can you point me to *any* game ever, where hundreds have quit and complained because it was too easy to reach max level?

D4. I know people who started late, saw the "click 1 button to skip to level 50" and Uninstalled. I can also point to hundreds of players that just don't care.

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SpankyKong#9805 が発言:

The eternal contradictions. "It has little effect" and also "it's absolutely essential to gate keep from other players."

"You probably aren't ready for harder content" while ignoring the dozens or hundreds of times that level of content has already been beaten.

its not a contradiction. Getting 1 more skill point will not stop them from dying. And difficulty has more than just enemy level on its side. Know what mods a build can handle or suffer the consequences.

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Direfell#7544 が発言:

its not a contradiction. Getting 1 more skill point will not stop them from dying. And difficulty has more than just enemy level on its side. Know what mods a build can handle or suffer the consequences.

So, what is it... 1 skill point, 10, more... you changed your claim there just slightly.

Rhetorical, i really don't care, but i will never understand defending the shitty system. lol. Each to their own.

Make the deaths feel fair and earned and this topic will be moot!
If that cant be done, then remove the punishment and stop stealing peoples hard earned progress!

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JoannaDark#6252 が発言:

So, what is it... 1 skill point, 10, more... you changed your claim there just slightly.

Sorry, when did I ever say 10?

Please stop making assumptions / putting words in my mouth