The real problem of XP LOSS.

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LiMA6#0387 が発言:

my innovative idea said some pages back is already the best, an item that prevents xp loss but punishes the player differently and prevents progress beyond a certain level realistically. should give people enough time to feel frustrated before finding ways to improve and adds value to the economy.

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Psych6demon#1531 が発言:

For those who say those 10 points doesn't really matter from 90 - 100, then a way to please everyone would be:

- 90 to 100 doesn't give any skill points.
- Those 10 missing points can be spread into campaign quests as non-weapon set skill point rewards.
- Xp Penalty starts at 90 and increases by 10% each level up to 100% xp loss if you die at level 99.
- 90 to 100 becomes the grind for all pp measuring competition addicts whose for some reason likes to compete in PVE games just to prove/pretend they have a big pp by bragging about the fact they've wasted 200+ hours of their lives increasing an integer number inside a server that holds a data called level which is clamped between 1 - 100.
- All problems solved, everyone can have fun.

In the end GGG should think a bit more of people who has lives outside of their game and respect ppl's realities by reducing the amount of time needed to optmize one character and completing all the endgame main tasks. Grinding is cool, everyone likes it to a certain degree, the problem starts when the game is balanced around the reality of the player base who can play the game for more than 4 hours per day. Not everybody can play this much, also, sometimes ppl wanna spend their free time with other types of entertainment like spending good time with their family, sports, movies, books, other games and so on... Making alts in this game is out of the table for basically everyone who doesn't live from playing it, which is quite frustrating, everyone wanna try different builds, try that new weapon drop they found in another character, but basically nobody can. If you have a life, you make 1 character and play it until the league ends and with great luck you'll maybe make 1 good character with an optimal build with god tier gear, even if you're a veteran who knows how to rush the campaign, build your character, optimize your farm and all the blablabla involved in git gud statements, just maybe.

Btw that's why RMT plagues this game. Ppl who work their asses off all day and can't play for so many hours, will obviously spend the money they get working their asses off to compensate the hours they can't put into playing to bypass the excessive grind and helping them make their way to endgame bosses and eventually "completing" the game.

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LiMA6#0387 が発言:

who are you to say what's fair? im merely making a compromise. in truth, the best idea is to do nothing. things continue as they have been since poe1.

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LiMA6#0387 が発言:

so are you gonna show your gear / stats or what?

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qQbonmjtAZ#7824 が発言:

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LiMA6#0387 が発言:

my innovative idea said some pages back is already the best, an item that prevents xp loss but punishes the player differently and prevents progress beyond a certain level realistically. should give people enough time to feel frustrated before finding ways to improve and adds value to the economy.

Your helmet is the worst idea. It's not a compromise it's just a way to punish players even more.

The best idea was probably giving the extra 10 skill points in the campaign and capping them at 90. By your own admission those points don't matter to you and neither do the last 10 levels.

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SpankyKong#9805 が発言:

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LiMA6#0387 が発言:

who are you to say what's fair? im merely making a compromise. in truth, the best idea is to do nothing. things continue as they have been since poe1.

To do nothing is to continue on the downward trajectory that we see currently see. If that happens, well OK I'm having fun with other games. They are hurting themselves by keeping their ceiling low, for what - to appease your ego of imaginary accomplishment? More happy players = more money. "Casuals should not play this game" you say... well OK then you are a total hypocrite for not playing hardcore mode.

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LiMA6#0387 が発言:

so are you gonna show your gear / stats or what?

Absolutely not. First of all, where is your gear and stats. Second, I'm on mobile and it takes me at least an hour to set up a maxroll profile. Your bad faith responses all throughout these threads make it clear it would be a pure waste of time. I don't need your help - the solution to make my build better is having dozens or hundreds of divine orbs to trade for better gear.

Third and the important one - you are just hoping to use it to distract from the core complaint & from the discussion at hand. Dying itself is not the issue. It's about the unreasonable cost of dying - hours of earned progress (content that was already beaten) which gets wiped out.


I can accept losing waystones, losing map mechanics, losing tower influence, losing loot on the ground, and losing time which is more valuable to me than it is to you. Those other existing punishments from dying are ones I can see as reasonable.

You have not explained how it is reasonable for a player to lose hours or days worth of (progress earned from content they have already beaten). You haven't explained and I know that you probably never will. You just insist it has to be this way and then you antagonize players for not liking this system.

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LiMA6#0387 が発言:

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qQbonmjtAZ#7824 が発言:

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LiMA6#0387 が発言:

my innovative idea said some pages back is already the best, an item that prevents xp loss but punishes the player differently and prevents progress beyond a certain level realistically. should give people enough time to feel frustrated before finding ways to improve and adds value to the economy.

Your helmet is the worst idea. It's not a compromise it's just a way to punish players even more.

The best idea was probably giving the extra 10 skill points in the campaign and capping them at 90. By your own admission those points don't matter to you and neither do the last 10 levels.

the way i see it, 'the best idea' of yours is one that would cause streamers to uninstall. get on a stream and ask them, see what they have to say about your idea. but wait, you are the sort who only care about your own opinion right?

but you know why my idea is the best? it's because its optional. its not enforced and we're laying the xp loss nonsense to rest. but then, you are still refusing. so what you're really asking for is for the game to be easier, more rewards, and less penalties. is it not?

and perhaps you don't understand the concept of pushing for greatness. grinding hard for that 1 extra point for that 0.1%. have you ever sold a max rolled item that costs 50 divine more because of that 1%? some people strive for greatness, not something you'd understand.

you just wanna continue playing in your own manner and be rewarded more.

so uh, show your build, stats, gear?. no? yes?