XP loss on death is seriously demotivating

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Kodavor#1200 が発言:

Good for you. You are in the absolute minority of PoE players who "immediately know what killed me(you) and what I(you) couldve done to prevent it". Even streamers like Ziz and Quin get oneshots and have to go back and look at the recordings to understand what killed them. You are an absolute UNIT of a PoE player. Gratz to you.

Most of us play without recording the gameplay and have the exact opposite experience.

That being said, you are turning out to be THE ELITE and you are saying that the game should be balanced around players like you. I hope your wallet is THICK and you are super generous with your donations to GGG.

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I dont think thats accurate at all.
I think the majority of current players are the ones playing and enjoying the game. While the minority are the ones lurking on forums complaining.
And I think the majority of players understand whats happening on their screen, not to say that there are never exceptions where you might have alot of clutter on your screen and overlook something.

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Kodavor#1200 が発言:

You don't have to agree with it for it to be accurate. It doesn't change that it is factual.

If Ziz can get randomly oneshot while playing HC the way he does, then it is an absolute certainty for all who play in softcore and don't have 30k+ hours in PoE.


# Game Logic
if game.contains_oneshots() and game.has_exp_penalty_on_death():
player_feedback = "EXP penalty feels unfair due to unpredictable one-shots."
game.balance_feedback_queue.append(player_feedback)

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Unfortunately thats not how anything in the world works.
You cant just claim that something is factual without actually providing any evidence.

Also just fyi Zizaran didnt die to a "random one shot". He died to Arbiter of Ash, to a mechanic that in no way is random.
He to some extent "yolod" it because he wanted to play last epoch and was hoping that maybe his character was tanky enough to tank it. No part of this was random and it was immediately obvious what he died to. His only complaint was that the mechanic was hard to see but then also justifying it with saying it was the first time he did the fight.
And even if for the sake of argument we could say that maybe that Arbiter mechanic needs better visibility (which I dont personally think) then that is in no way shape or form an excuse to claim that the entire game is filled with "random one shots".


So your making up a false statement and then trying to present it as a fact to justify your bad argument.

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Nyon#6673 が発言:

not to say that there are never exceptions where you might have alot of clutter on your screen and overlook something.

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Kodavor#1200 が発言:

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Unfortunately thats not how anything in the world works.
You cant just claim that something is factual without actually providing any evidence.

Also just fyi Zizaran didnt die to a "random one shot". He died to Arbiter of Ash, to a mechanic that in no way is random.
He to some extent "yolod" it because he wanted to play last epoch and was hoping that maybe his character was tanky enough to tank it. No part of this was random and it was immediately obvious what he died to. His only complaint was that the mechanic was hard to see but then also justifying it with saying it was the first time he did the fight.
And even if for the sake of argument we could say that maybe that Arbiter mechanic needs better visibility (which I dont personally think) then that is in no way shape or form an excuse to claim that the entire game is filled with "random one shots".


So your making up a false statement and then trying to present it as a fact to justify your bad argument.

MATE! Realllllly .....

You are so DISINGENIOUS that its disgusting. Ziz is playing PoE for a VERY LONG TIME. Tens of thousands of hours. He has had countless oneshots on hundreds of characters. You only name the last death he had. ... and it was still a ONESHOT.

Ziz also put forward a QUESTION: Should the target of the Boss be to KILL YOU or PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING LOOT?
Because those two thing don't have to be tied together.

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Flowneppets#0528 が発言:

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Nyon#6673 が発言:

not to say that there are never exceptions where you might have alot of clutter on your screen and overlook something.

There is literally not a single map in endgame that isn't literred with visual clutter, fx bonanza, weird artifacts from dynamic resolution, slow downs and rubber banding from server issues etc. pp.

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Nyon#6673 が発言:

Also just fyi Zizaran didnt die to a "random one shot". He died to Arbiter of Ash, to a mechanic that in no way is random.

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Echothesis#7320 が発言:

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Nyon#6673 が発言:

Also just fyi Zizaran didnt die to a "random one shot". He died to Arbiter of Ash, to a mechanic that in no way is random.

All monster damage calculations in arpg involve randomness, poe included. Even if this specific pinnacle boss wasn't affected by a list of area modifiers, there are no 2 casts that do same damage.

Which is why top-down diablo-style arpg can NEVER be a souls-like experience, poe included. Attempting to jury-rig harsh penalties to hazards players have no control over achieves nothing but causing part of the playerbase to quit. Same goes for trying to fit parry-riposte mechanics, it just stops working when there are 20 monsters on screen all using different kinds of attacks.

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Kraivan#1745 が発言:

XP loss is not a concern. The issue is progress loss: events, keystone, juiced map.