Early Access Feedback - Player power is so high that it is ruining the game. 1-button screen clear is BORING. - フォーラム

" Aya#9380 が発言: Sorry my dude but this is what this game is about. You are part of a very loud and obnoxious minority that wants this game to fail at what it's supposed to deliver. "Slow and meaningful" only goes as far as the campaign goes but anything after that is "Fast & Zoom". You should start accepting, that if you don't like to oneshot kill enemies, you can consider yourself NOT the target audience. It's time to stop with this whole argument of "slow and methodical", it has no space in this game and it was a failed concept of merging what made PoE1 so successful. Get it out of here. no, the minority is the Zoom crowd. Remember the vast majority ofpeopel that tried POE1 did not stick to it EXACLTY because of zoom. GGG was smart enough to notice is and understand it needs to control the loud, very loud zoom group, that is so small that cannot even be called a crowd.	投稿者 Urza_Mechwalker#7393 日時 2025/05/24 7:49:26 この投稿を引用する
" Slart1bartfast#0332 が発言: You are correct OP. Don't listen to these trolls. As someone who grew up with D1 and D2 this genre has become a complete charicature of what it once was. GGGs idea of slowing down combat and making mobs hard is genuinely the answer, however they are also shooting themselves in the foot. Because if you look at endgame everything screams "clearspeed", "kill fast" and "zoom zoom zoom" at you. Whether that's league mechanics, pinnacle content or something as fundamental as loot. Of course they should curbstomp these builds. But what remains after that? The reward structure of the game just doesn't properly work. You then play a much slower build and due to the nature of the game you will get a lot less rewards for content being much harder to best. You have 0 ways to reliable improve your gear outside of trade (again back to clearspeed and div/h). "Crafting" is a complete rng dogshit slot machine that yields 100 failures for one success. People cry for these one-button builds because it's the only way to somewhat reliably ensure progression in this game via currency farming and trade. I have played SSF this season. At some point it's like hitting a brick wall in progression and it grinds to a complete halt. You are absolutely right. Mechanics are designed for a clearspead and zoom-zoom, perhaps because these mechanics were ported-over from PoE 1, which has a stupid movement/action speed. I honestly believe they wanted to slow down PoE 2 a lot and this was also clearly said during interviews. But then you port-over mechanics as Breach, Delirium, Ritual and the whole design is kill or be killed within seconds. I would still say we need a soft-cap on dmg. No build should kill pinnacle bosses in seconds, no matter what is your investment. Just because I have 900hours in Need for Speed and I invested a lot, it doesn't mean my car goes 9999km/h. There needs to be a ceiling if the balance is lacking. I am all for powerful builds, but powerful meaning you kill the boss in about 45sec and you can survive even if you do mistakes. Current state of player power isn't a gameplay, it's a damn cookie clicker.	投稿者 Sargoth_CZ#3391 日時 2025/05/24 7:49:53 この投稿を引用する
+1 to wanting one shot screen clearing builds to die. They've said they still want the player to feel powerful but I think people hit the one shot phase too early. It is really boring. I want combos etc to be more impactful and punchy. The game needs a lot of changes to realise their vision because the end game still stinks of poe1 and that does not blend well with what they want the combat to be imo. Meaningful combat is not one shotting a screen nor is it being one shot by perma homing hazards or ground effects. Meaningful combat should have back and forth not be a one shot kill or be killed shit fest. The buffs to loot are nice. I hope they balance loot and progression around ssf as trade is misery. I want to play the game not stare at a website and sit hoping someone responds to my whisper.	投稿者 Aelin21#7976 日時 2025/05/24 7:55:54 この投稿を引用する
I don't know why some ppl want other to get nerfs. Screen clearing is the point of an ARPG. You play to feel that you cheated the game and found something op. Not the say that slower build should not exist but fast build are what I play the game.	投稿者 Cece912#7519 日時 2025/05/24 8:10:34 この投稿を引用する
" Cece912#7519 が発言: I don't know why some ppl want other to get nerfs. Screen clearing is the point of an ARPG. You play to feel that you cheated the game and found something op. Not the say that slower build should not exist but fast build are what I play the game. that is not the focus.. the thing is.. we want the game to notice that the mechanics PUSH you into that while they promissed that would not be the case. The swarmy behavior of monsters create ascenario where this is the only effective form and that is BAD.	投稿者 Urza_Mechwalker#7393 日時 2025/05/24 8:28:36 この投稿を引用する
Not only these builds feels like cheating and are boring AF, they always end up getting nerfed. We're VERY VERY far from early ARPG paces, this genre was never about zooming through maps in minutes. If you think using Enigma/Teleport/LeapSlam/Whatever (that goes like 10 times faster than normal movement speed) is the vision of what movement should be in ARPG, your vision is flawed and belongs in arcade games. Tech guy 最後に Warrax#2850 が 2025/05/24 8:38:56 に編集	投稿者 Warrax#2850 日時 2025/05/24 8:36:53 この投稿を引用する
I like the slower meaningful combat but I think mapping takes too long. Maps are too big and the requirement to kill the (spread out) rares to complete the map sometimes takes 15 minutes or longer per map when you factor in all of the other stuff you do: rituals etc,. I feel like I move at a snails pace in endgame which, imo, has nothing to do with combat and everything to do with the map completion requirement.	投稿者 cesmode#5569 日時 2025/05/24 8:40:58 この投稿を引用する
" cesmode#5569 が発言: I like the slower meaningful combat but I think mapping takes too long. Maps are too big and the requirement to kill the (spread out) rares to complete the map sometimes takes 15 minutes or longer per map when you factor in all of the other stuff you do: rituals etc,. I feel like I move at a snails pace in endgame which, imo, has nothing to do with combat and everything to do with the map completion requirement. That is a completely valid critic. Maps design and density are too different from campaign. Maps should GUIDE you to the objective like in campaign.	投稿者 Urza_Mechwalker#7393 日時 2025/05/24 9:17:23 この投稿を引用する
" They should have MORE HP but less numbers. THIS !	投稿者 Zanozus#7669 日時 2025/05/24 9:18:54 この投稿を引用する
The problem is not fast or slow gameplay but (not) rewarding complexity. More complex build and skill rotation should deal more damage, not vice versa.	投稿者 Zanozus#7669 日時 2025/05/24 9:21:32 この投稿を引用する