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Elden Ring is certainly a bold choice. Keep in mind that ER came out three years ago and POE 2 was just six months ago, not to mention Elden Ring was never a seasonal game like POE 2.
"Everyone forgot about that franchise" sir, have you checked the twitch viewership and steam charts today?
Oh sorry, thought it was clear:
/s. I chose ER as an example precisely because it is not a bad franchise and yet it shows similar numbers to what OP is saying indicates poe2 is.
Checked the current numbers and its daily peak is about 4% of its all time peak. 6 months after release it was also averaging 20-23k players.
And I know it came out years ago, but I only referenced data from its 1st yr + dlc
Don't bother trying to use logic with these people, it's not something they care for as the tiniest amount of it ruins whatever "point" they were trying to make.
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投稿者Seanprice798#2395日時 2025/05/28 16:22:16
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Elden Ring is certainly a bold choice. Keep in mind that ER came out three years ago and POE 2 was just six months ago, not to mention Elden Ring was never a seasonal game like POE 2.
"Everyone forgot about that franchise" sir, have you checked the twitch viewership and steam charts today?
Oh sorry, thought it was clear:
/s. I chose ER as an example precisely because it is not a bad franchise and yet it shows similar numbers to what OP is saying indicates poe2 is.
Checked the current numbers and its daily peak is about 4% of its all time peak. 6 months after release it was also averaging 20-23k players.
And I know it came out years ago, but I only referenced data from its 1st yr + dlc
Don't bother trying to use logic with these people, it's not something they care for as the tiniest amount of it ruins whatever "point" they were trying to make.
Do you mean the logic of Elden Ring is a one and done game so .
Logically what you are seeing is the launch and then the combined decrease from attrition and finishing the game. Elden Ring is not cyclical. If GGG's ambition was to copy Elden Ring then gratz. Those players are gone or done with PoE2. The Elden Ring numbers represent PvP players.
PoE is not Elden Ring
If it ever aspires to be, it is dead.
PoE2 has never reversed its downward trend.
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投稿者Jitter912#4278日時 2025/05/28 16:43:52保護観察中
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500000, 20000 ... it's the same thing. Even better than 500000.
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投稿者Oddball#0339日時 2025/05/28 18:05:23
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Even if PoE2 stays at 20,000 players forever, it will be profitable. There's some kind of gamer death cult, where any game that disappoints me must die. It's too woke, it isn't woke enough, it wasted my time, it's too easy -- whatever the reason, it's going to die and shut down at any moment.
If I'm describing you, please ask yourself why you're attracted to that kind of thinking. It isn't connected to reality: PoE2, even at its lowest point, is still profitable. Why do you like your death cult fantasy more than business reality?
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Do you mean the logic of Elden Ring is a one and done game so .
Logically what you are seeing is the launch and then the combined decrease from attrition and finishing the game. Elden Ring is not cyclical. If GGG's ambition was to copy Elden Ring then gratz. Those players are gone or done with PoE2. The Elden Ring numbers represent PvP players.
PoE is not Elden Ring
If it ever aspires to be, it is dead.
PoE2 has never reversed its downward trend.
Yes goofball, because PoE, D3, D4, Last Epoch, PoE2 and every other online ARPG since the dawn of time doesn't drastically dip in player count 2 weeks after the start of a new league, let alone 4-6 weeks after. The second a new league drops you'll get the same 200k players you always do if not more depending on the size of the update.
I honestly don't know what point you and the OP are trying to make outside of either being trolls or[Removed by Support]. The fact I might actually have to explain the point in comparing to ER is baffling to me. He's clearly not comparing genres, but stating that regardless of how huge the game, without new content the numbers will obviously drop. I mean there is no planet you don't grasp that, right? Yet here we are.
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投稿者Seanprice798#2395日時 2025/05/28 18:18:30
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The Elden Ring numbers represent PvP players.
Got a source for that claim? Just curious
"Beidat honored the pact, though Mancy wouldn't take off Doryani’s prototype."
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投稿者Direfell#7544日時 2025/05/28 18:20:20
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Guess what, 10k are bots. This will go down as one of the most spectacular failures of all time. Pretty sad tbh. Coulda been amazing
Maybe you missed it but the game is not even released yet....it's still in Beta.
With your Early Access purchase you've just payd an entrance fee to participate the Beta-Test...nothing more, nothing less.
If you want a finished game wait till 1.0 release but until than it's a Beta test where everything you have to do is to test the gama and report things that are off.
Half of the basic content is not even in there and so prety much every balance off (skills, movement, moster attack patterns, etc....)....I mean 40% of the mobs don't even have own attack patterns and all have the same attack "placeholder" (they all run towards you and try to auto attack with a basic hit.). ^^
Start to be a constructive part of the community instead of badmouthing the game only becasue it's in Beta. ;)
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投稿者CroDanZ#1818日時 2025/05/28 18:38:44
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Guess what, 10k are bots. This will go down as one of the most spectacular failures of all time. Pretty sad tbh. Coulda been amazing
Maybe you missed it but the game is not even released yet....it's still in Beta.
With your Early Access purchase you've just payd an entrance fee to participate the Beta-Test...nothing more, nothing less.
If you want a finished game wait till 1.0 release but until than it's a Beta test where everything you have to do is to test the gama and report things that are off.
Half of the basic content is not even in there and so prety much every balance off (skills, movement, moster attack patterns, etc....)....I mean 40% of the mobs don't even have own attack patterns and all have the same attack "placeholder" (they all run towards you and try to auto attack with a basic hit.). ^^
Start to be a constructive part of the community instead of badmouthing the game only becasue it's in Beta. ;)
There are fundamental differences between Alpha / Beta and early access.
This isn't preference, it is industry standard.
They sold us on Early access, not a beta, because no one would pay to play 1/3 of a game in Beta...this implies the majority/base of the game is in a playable state, with a few bugs, of which to build upon.
All they have is 3 acts, and the gem system, that is it. By their own admission, the 'endgame' was thrown in at the last minute so that there was something there. More than half of the base game hasn't been made yet...
In 6 months we have seen no tangible progress, other than adding the Huntress and a few gems. If anything every patch made things worse/more buggy. Tho they managed to prioritize the MTX shop, new stash tabs & loot boxes, etc.
They lied to us, plain and simple. This is another year or two away from anything remotely close to "Early access".
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投稿者Chalace2#1463日時 2025/05/28 20:43:38
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Guess what, 10k are bots. This will go down as one of the most spectacular failures of all time. Pretty sad tbh. Coulda been amazing
Maybe you missed it but the game is not even released yet....it's still in Beta.
With your Early Access purchase you've just payd an entrance fee to participate the Beta-Test...nothing more, nothing less.
If you want a finished game wait till 1.0 release but until than it's a Beta test where everything you have to do is to test the gama and report things that are off.
Half of the basic content is not even in there and so prety much every balance off (skills, movement, moster attack patterns, etc....)....I mean 40% of the mobs don't even have own attack patterns and all have the same attack "placeholder" (they all run towards you and try to auto attack with a basic hit.). ^^
Start to be a constructive part of the community instead of badmouthing the game only becasue it's in Beta. ;)
There are fundamental differences between Alpha / Beta and early access.
This isn't preference, it is industry standard.
They sold us on Early access, not a beta, because no one would pay to play 1/3 of a game in Beta...this implies the majority/base of the game is in a playable state, with a few bugs, of which to build upon.
All they have is 3 acts, and the gem system, that is it. By their own admission, the 'endgame' was thrown in at the last minute so that there was something there. More than half of the base game hasn't been made yet...
In 6 months we have seen no tangible progress, other than adding the Huntress and a few gems. If anything every patch made things worse/more buggy. Tho they managed to prioritize the MTX shop, new stash tabs & loot boxes, etc.
They lied to us, plain and simple. This is another year or two away from anything remotely close to "Early access".
It's impossible to take people like you serious. "They lied to us!". Bro, they did a multi hour reveal stream explaining in DETAIL what was currently in the game. They then did an interview after that saying it would take at least a year for everything to be put in. Like please stop with these nonsense arguments, it's beyond the pale how silly you sound. I say silly because saying anything harsher than that gets immediately removed. Like they charged $30 for something that has more content and polish than 95% of other triple A games while proceeding to give you free content updates for life after that. Please stop this weird fascination with wanting to be a victim...over a video game no less.
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投稿者Seanprice798#2395日時 2025/05/28 21:08:14
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The Elden Ring numbers represent PvP players.
Got a source for that claim? Just curious
Yes there is an active PvP community that props up the numbers.
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投稿者Jitter912#4278日時 2025/05/28 21:16:28保護観察中
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