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Wow some contentious replies. There are three primary groups in this game.
1. THe "fans" who think the game is fine and no problem. They use lots and lots of "copium" like "Its only EA" when GGG has been doing this for 12y and should know better. These people are constantly attacking people not for content but for superficial or personal reasons.
2. The this game is going the wrong direction crew. I am in this group. They are either long time GGG supporters or other well-intentioned players that are willing to speak up because they care about the game succeeding. They get attacked and flamed a lot, called all sorts of names but they are there to make the game better so they shrug it off.
3. Those that have left.
Group 3 has 95% of the player base from launch. I would say of those left, 80% are in group 1.
Yet the numbers keep going down.
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投稿者Kraythax#2592日時 2025/05/12 16:32:30
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Wow some contentious replies. There are three primary groups in this game.
1. THe "fans" who think the game is fine and no problem. They use lots and lots of "copium" like "Its only EA" when GGG has been doing this for 12y and should know better. These people are constantly attacking people not for content but for superficial or personal reasons.
2. The this game is going the wrong direction crew. I am in this group. They are either long time GGG supporters or other well-intentioned players that are willing to speak up because they care about the game succeeding. They get attacked and flamed a lot, called all sorts of names but they are there to make the game better so they shrug it off.
3. Those that have left.
Group 3 has 95% of the player base from launch. I would say of those left, 80% are in group 1.
Yet the numbers keep going down.
What group am I in? I won't be offended lol
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投稿者outlander19900#0213日時 2025/05/12 16:39:11
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Wow some contentious replies. There are three primary groups in this game.
1. THe "fans" who think the game is fine and no problem. They use lots and lots of "copium" like "Its only EA" when GGG has been doing this for 12y and should know better. These people are constantly attacking people not for content but for superficial or personal reasons.
2. The this game is going the wrong direction crew. I am in this group. They are either long time GGG supporters or other well-intentioned players that are willing to speak up because they care about the game succeeding. They get attacked and flamed a lot, called all sorts of names but they are there to make the game better so they shrug it off.
3. Those that have left.
Group 3 has 95% of the player base from launch. I would say of those left, 80% are in group 1.
Yet the numbers keep going down.
What group am I in? I won't be offended lol
Only you know that answer.
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投稿者Kraythax#2592日時 2025/05/12 16:56:42
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Yes everything should be free and there should be no penalties for dying and no challenge or time investment needed for anything.
Surely that will lead to alot of players playing the game and also getting feedback that is actually useful for how the game should work after we have removed 99% of the mechanics from the game their supposed to be testing.
Example: Trials were tested. Verdict: TFT ascendancy service sprawled at a massive scale. Even players who have sacred poe knowledge to complete their trials themselves don't want to bother, either because sanctum is incompatible with the build they're making for the core mapping, or because they hate sanctum and ulti.
Both of these cases represent clear flaws on designer's side. Content mandatory for establishing a build shouldn't require completely different challenges from said build. Sanctum is the opposite of common poe mapping, as such it should never have been mandatory. Ulti is simply a huge RNG difficulty spike, often harder than T15 maps.
GGG response: fixed some bugs, otherwise nothing. Sanctum and ulti remain as they are, no attempts to change mechanics and test further.
Conclusion: either GGG is perfectly content with current state of the trials, or they simply don't care about whole PTR thing like you imply here. If right now we are "supposed to be testing", GGG just wastes this free tester time and behaves as if they had released another poe1 league here.
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投稿者Echothesis#7320日時 2025/05/12 16:58:26
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my verdict remains, I am not playing this game until towers are removed.
"buff grenades"
- Buff Grenades (Buff-Grenades)
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投稿者auspexa#1404日時 2025/05/12 17:14:57保護観察中
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What is the EA in this ?
They do almost everything what we get in Poe 2, more than 10 years.
Breach, Ritual, Delirium, etc etc, all was in Poe 1. They get lot of feedbacks from these, made a lot of changes, and most of things finally was in ,,good" state.
And then, they forget everything what they made, what they experienced in the past several years, and they call it EA.. lol.
I think the most hated, most pointless mechanic was in Poe 1, the strongboxes. What was the first thing they brought here? Strongboxes.
If only one company in the world, only one enterprise, only one people drop everything what he experienced firsthand, for more than 10 years, its cannot be called ,,EA".
Its clear stupidity, and scamming the customers, nothing more.
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投稿者Xyrian1988#2315日時 2025/05/12 17:22:28
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Tell you what, if i wanted to play a "souls-like" game.. i'll play Dark Souls.
I wanna play a ARPG and try builds and loot gearing optimization if I wanted to get fancy.
POE1 established so much systems (with its failures from their release years ago that was slowly improved) but I still don't understand the direction of all the abandoned core-player-game interaction by choosing not to include them in POE2
Dark Souls is ARPG. If you want to play PoE1 or Diablo clone then write this.
well you're cooked if you're taking the time to comment how DS is a "ARPG" you know exactly what I mean.. and also DS its not a ARPG its a RPG
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投稿者ZungleBoogie#1892日時 2025/05/12 17:24:28
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Wow some contentious replies. There are three primary groups in this game.
1. THe "fans" who think the game is fine and no problem. They use lots and lots of "copium" like "Its only EA" when GGG has been doing this for 12y and should know better. These people are constantly attacking people not for content but for superficial or personal reasons.
2. The this game is going the wrong direction crew. I am in this group. They are either long time GGG supporters or other well-intentioned players that are willing to speak up because they care about the game succeeding. They get attacked and flamed a lot, called all sorts of names but they are there to make the game better so they shrug it off.
3. Those that have left.
Group 3 has 95% of the player base from launch. I would say of those left, 80% are in group 1.
Yet the numbers keep going down.
It's honestly hilarious how Group 1 keeps blindly defending “the vision”, acting like it’s totally normal to lose 90% of the playerbase in just one month.
They keep repeating the same nonsense: “If you want zoom-zoom gameplay, go back to PoE 1.”
Meanwhile, PoE 2 is literally built on copy-pasted PoE 1 mechanics. Entire foundation of the game is still about speed-clearing.
You can’t take a game designed around zoom-zoom mechanics and suddenly force “tactical” gameplay on top of it.
It just doesn’t work. It’s like trying to turn a Formula 1 car into a tank — conceptually broken from the start.
You can’t dodge-parry a giant crowd of mobs moving at 200% speed and hitting you twice per second.
You can’t triple monster HP, neuter player damage, and still call that fun.
You can’t have build diversity when you’ve gutted 60% of the classes.
Go ahead — try Pathfinder with Concoction, Infernalist with Demon Form, or the Chaluya build.
It’s completely unplayable.
And please, don’t give me the “it’s just EA” excuse.
These builds worked, more or less, in 0.1 — still in EA, by the way. The only difference now is that they were destroyed by one stupid patch.
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投稿者ShaDarkLord#6528日時 2025/05/12 17:38:27
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OP, the amount of threads you are making about how much POE 2 sucks is concerning. Have you considered just not playing it until full release? It doesn’t look like you’ve enjoyed POE 1 much, either, looking at your challenge history so maybe it’s not just a POE 2 problem.
I mean no offense and I don’t particularly care for POE 2, but come on, this is unnecessary.
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投稿者KeiranPOE#4565日時 2025/05/12 18:02:12
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Wow some contentious replies. There are three primary groups in this game.
1. THe "fans" who think the game is fine and no problem. They use lots and lots of "copium" like "Its only EA" when GGG has been doing this for 12y and should know better. These people are constantly attacking people not for content but for superficial or personal reasons.
2. The this game is going the wrong direction crew. I am in this group. They are either long time GGG supporters or other well-intentioned players that are willing to speak up because they care about the game succeeding. They get attacked and flamed a lot, called all sorts of names but they are there to make the game better so they shrug it off.
3. Those that have left.
Group 3 has 95% of the player base from launch. I would say of those left, 80% are in group 1.
Yet the numbers keep going down.
I'm in between groups 2 and 3. I'm want the game to succeed and be great, but can't copium so hard as group 1 does, the game has major flaws and it made the group 3 so atractive. There is other good games in the market to taste while PoE 2 isn't "finished".
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The problem with your entire post is that GGG implied POE2 was ready, with an expected 6 month EA window for feedback, and full release expectation of June 2025. And here we were are on the verge of June 2025, with a completely unfinished product: half the classes are missing, half the ascendancy classes are missing, all the existing ascendancy classes are garbage, the passive skill is terrible, there is no crafting (it's ALL gambling), items drops are terrible, item bases are missing, end game is terrible, monster density is terrible, movement speed is terrible, the skill gem system is terrible, zones sizes are too large, the campaign is too long, hunting for rares to get loot is terrible, along with much more not being good. Skill and monster damage needs balanced as well, but GGG couldn't even manage to accomplish this in the almost last 6 months either.
December of 2024, I said POE2 was in such a bad state that it wasn't going to be ready for 1.0 release until 2027. But given lack of progress over the last almost 6 months in accomplishing anything at all, it's going to more closer to 2028 before this game is ready. And this, the difference between what GGG implied the state of POE2 was at EA release vs the reality of things, is the reason for all our expectations going up in flames, the forum being on fire, and all the negative reviews. Additionally, there is also the fact that POE2 is not POE. POE2 is something else completely, nothing representative of what was originally revealed at the first Exile Con.
+1 That!
GGG promised something and so far has not delivered anything of sort. Chris bailing out from a back door without a farewell statement speaks value about PoE 2 direction.
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投稿者Fhrek#4437日時 2025/05/12 18:03:07
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